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Luminesce: Yeah, the car analogy is the best switching analogy I've found by far (edited)

8:31 PM

The idea of the host always being in the driver's seat, and tulpas just in passenger seats, and switching being changing seats

8:31 PM

Fits perfectly

8:31 PM

I even extend it quite a bit, saying singlets tend to think of themselves as the entire car, rather than just the driver

and izzy talkign about two cars is also perfect analogy for people's expectations

8:31 PM

I even extend it quite a bit, saying singlets tend to think of themselves as the entire car, rather than just the driver

@Reisen - jump wow that's a great extension of it, too

if anything this experience has made me realize i've probably switched a few times before, and just haven't explicitly noticed until now.

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Luminesce: And that makes it hard for them to make tulpas or to switch, because they think "How do I take the entire car with me into the passenger's seat?" (edited)

based easy switching i hate analogies! they're for newbies and they just confuse them ironically

8:32 PM

some of them get confused by analogies anyway

Luminesce: I would probably only apply the analogy when I think someone's thinking of it in that wrong "I am the car" way, but I really don't think it hurts regardless (edited)

8:33 PM

Sometimes the car analogy is and sometimes it isn't in my switching-teaching, but I think it's good either way

i wonder if people from countries with functional public transport systems are more likely to use train or bus analogies on average /joke

is it a mean joke or a kind joke? (▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿)

Don't get offended on behalf of your country, it's not your fault if your country does things poorly, it's the govt's (edited)

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i wonder if people from countries with functional public transport systems are more likely to use train or bus analogies on average /joke

i wonder if we can patch up a good enough bus/train analogy...

SPOILER

lol, probably as close as you can get

in a disordered system, then, extending the car analogy, sometimes the car stops and everyone changes seats and nobody has any say over when or where that happens?

8:42 PM

with the goal of therapy being more controlled management of changing seats in the car, which benefits the trip as a whole

Luminesce: Don't know, I'm not directly knowledgeable in disorderly experiences so I don't try to describe or work with them (edited)

disordered system would basically be a vehicle full of unstable people (edited)

When I talk about disorderly stuff, it's in a tulpamancy context of prevention

8:44 PM

Not treatment

i would say so as one of those

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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk

disordered system would basically be a vehicle full of unstable people (edited)

this description sounds like the title of a comedy sketch

trust me, being a disordered system is a comedy sketch

I think I'm in a comedy sketch now

Reisen

So you've been lucky :P

Do keep in mind the JDI switching group is the majority of tulpamancers. Systems like ours are more of a rarity

JDI = Just Do It?

Yes

Aha, just making sure I parsed that right

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lumi declared himself as a member of theJDI club by reacting with nod to this https://discord.com/channels/431579755037589505/818926967403315211/1129186040284991508

@kaybee nice work izzy!

blanka

in a disordered system, then, extending the car analogy, sometimes the car stops and everyone changes seats and nobody has any say over when or where that happens?

it also makes sense to use it for circumstances like being frontstuck, like when only one person drives for a while of course they're gonna get frazzled and irritable and all that

Reisen

Luminesce: I'm just talking about the people who "fail to learn switching" because they're expecting to double their brain's conscious experience (edited)

That was not what we were expecting, I just wanted Gray to stop accidentally taking over

Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈

@kaybee nice work izzy!

thank you, we're both really psyched about what happened and we're gonna keep practicing!

KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk

lumi declared himself as a member of theJDI club by reacting with nod to this https://discord.com/channels/431579755037589505/818926967403315211/1129186040284991508

I prefer the YCDI club (you can do it!) (edited)

KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk

lumi declared himself as a member of theJDI club by reacting with nod to this https://discord.com/channels/431579755037589505/818926967403315211/1129186040284991508

Luminesce: Aside from initial tulpa creation which was unintentional, long and messy for us (as it was done without any outside influence or expectations at all), all of the tulpamancy stuff we learned by just going "Okay, it sounds like that's something people really can do. So let's try to do it" and then doing it (edited)

kaybee

it also makes sense to use it for circumstances like being frontstuck, like when only one person drives for a while of course they're gonna get frazzled and irritable and all that

oh man I've been driving almost continuously for close to 30 years now

8:53 PM

I'm a danger to the road!!

Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈

I prefer the YCDI club (you can do it!) (edited)

that’s actually more fitting

kaybee

thank you, we're both really psyched about what happened and we're gonna keep practicing!

lots of exciting experiences to come, I bet!

Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈

I prefer the YCDI club (you can do it!) (edited)

Your positivity and earnest attitude are so lovely

8:54 PM

just wanted to say that

8:54 PM

you bring a lot to the table

8:54 PM

same goes for @KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk when they're not shitposting (although their shitposts are pretty funny)

lots of exciting experiences to come, I bet!

@Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 - jump izzy is actually a natural, she immediatelly started foguring things out and how they work

many people accidentally do tulpamacy without even hearing of tulpas, so humans seem to have the capacity for this naturally, if they want to do it... so people really can do it

Leiko

lots of exciting experiences to come, I bet!

@Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 - jump izzy is actually a natural, she immediatelly started foguring things out and how they work

it sounds from what you said like it was a world record!

Luminesce: Yeah, "plurality" is definitely just a possible function of the human brain (edited)

switching speedrun

Luminesce: But it's naturally grouped with "just imagination, no substance" like as imaginary friends and all, so it never gets real focused attention (edited)

8:56 PM

I do consider it an actual skill human brains are intentionally capable of though

blanka

Your positivity and earnest attitude are so lovely

aww, thank you

that means a lot to hear, I appreciate your words ^w^

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Luminesce: Most of us have seen how helpful having another person in your brain can be (edited)

now seeing blank reacting to alexandra’s post with alexa dra’s reactuon i can deduce that blank = alexandra

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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈

it sounds from what you said like it was a world record!

i suppose i've had enough guides and experiences osmosis that it just felt kind of intuitive, especially how i was told "don't even think about it, just get out of the way for her"

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8:58 PM

and it just worked!

KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk

now seeing blank reacting to alexandra’s post with alexa dra’s reactuon i can deduce that blank = alexandra

incredible deduction, holmes, you've cracked the case

kaybee

i suppose i've had enough guides and experiences osmosis that it just felt kind of intuitive, especially how i was told "don't even think about it, just get out of the way for her"

"don't think" is exactly it

it was same with blank

you're giving up control of the rudder over the stream of consciousness

and blanka

like, literally exactly it, yeah

and others

I do think it's interesting how odd our switching is. By setting it up the way we have, we have experiences other people don't have. For instance, we still practice possession regularly. None of that came from JDI. It definitely has its drawbacks but it makes us happy

it is very much about emotional intelligence and not “logical” intelligence

9:00 PM

there is nothing to think about or do, it’s more about „being” and experiencing

9:00 PM

and the brain knows how to achieve it… if thinking doesnt get in the way

i swear there's gotta be a steven universe quote somewhere that outlines this thought like perfectly

9:02 PM

it's such a plural-coded show

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95% chance there's a perfect quote hidden in it

I'm trying to scan my brain for one but I'm so fatigued

9:04 PM

it speaks a lot about emotional stuff so again would bot be surprised if so

9:04 PM

not* H

I have some issues with it but I'm happy it exists. I haven't read any plurality takes on it, but I can see where they come from--fusions being the obvious example

i have issues with it but idk any shows i don't have issues with

adventure time

(just kidding, bubblegum is the least stable characterization in the history of media in general and it sucks)

outside of that i remember reading someone's opinion on tumblr that there's evidence pearl suffers from something resembling DID

this is off-tulpa-topic but yeah I can see it

Luminesce: Steven Universe has some fun plural parallels, though they happen to promote frequent non-committal merging and unmerging more than tulpamancy does (edited)

(can also see it)

yeah i wouldn't mind moving this discussion to #general-discussion

Luminesce: Which is a viable take on tulpamancy, to be fair (edited)

9:11 PM

It's just not what we do, probably for stability's sake

I'd be happy to discuss it elsewhere even though my brain is halfway on today... also back on the topic of tulpas i feel like they bring things together for us, but what that is i don't think i exactly know

9:14 PM

maybe it just helps bring headmates together since a wide range of them will end up contributing to their creation one way or another? idk....